I think that sometimes words are the best way for us to really kind of dial into. Yeah, that's me. And that's what I feel like and even our ability just to have the vulnerability to say, yeah, this really stinks. There was so many women and the way they articulated how, what the struggle sounded like was just really raw is women that described feeling frustrated and heartbroken, inadequate. I mean, this the, the feeling of inadequate, so many people told us I just felt like I was letting my husband down. Partner down.

This was someone I knew would be great with kids and I can't make that happen. So inadequacy was such an important piece that emerged what what a difficult feeling that is to manage through people talking about feeling hopeful and disappointment. So that's like in a given month, right and I know my entire life because 30 days, you know, really every our entire lives became these blocks of 30. And that was certain months we felt hopeful maybe this is the month and then followed by that disappointment in that monthly cycle of hope and despair is difficult. Woman felt I felt frustrated. I hated that everyone around me was getting pregnant.

And isn't that the reality? We hear such amazing stories that we cover in the program of people that just you know, when you're paying attention to something, right? It could be a car that you want to buy, all of a sudden you see that car everywhere, right when you're in this struggle. Fortunately, it just feels like everyone around you is conceiving they're conceiving easily they can see born yet will and there's just babies and baby showers everywhere. Well, this idea of feeling helpless is much as I'm trying to fix this in. There's no amount of money or treatment that's able to fix this.

People just want this to go away to go away. At any expense in and people describe this as a grieving process and clearly one of the most saddest times of someone's life. So let's play this short clip from a woman that really, I think articulates what the struggle sounds like. The reproductive endocrinologist had ultimately said that we had a one to 2% chance of conceiving at all. And so that was pretty devastating news to hear. It was most challenging because we thought that news was permanent.

I felt like at that point really hit me that my parents know how much emotional and and to tell them Oh, you're not gonna have any grandkids from us was really tough and then having to tell his mother this news as well. It was really tough. And I remember saying, I am so sorry, I can't. I can't give you your son kids. And I said, You know, I feel like I'm damn Alright, so you Maybe January 21. Afternoon 21st I was having severe severe cramping.

I don't think you're going through early menopause. Why don't you take a pregnancy test? The next morning, I almost forgot to look at it. So I looked at it and it was the best day of my life. Oh, my goodness. It said pregnant.

And that was a shock. Yeah. So we called the doctor and they said to come in right away. So we went in. And they said, Oh, something right. They're not a baby.

But I'm seeing something over there. Are you ready for this? I think I've seen something down here too. Yeah, so that was pretty crazy. It was. It was overwhelming and exciting.

Doctors like so what did you do? Like what exactly you can do anything you just pray. Now what I think is fascinating about who you just heard there was Liz, I had Liz and Ryan, what a wonderful couple there in my home on my couch. And what is fascinating about that story is Liz was told she had less than a 2% chance of conceiving, she got the label, she had the statistic. She viewed her life through that statistic, and she was in that video describing how she was sharing the news to her mother in law, that she wouldn't be able to give her grandchildren. What a What a horrible thought.

What a what a difficult discussion. That is. What I find to be very fascinating about this is that Liz, first of all, has triplets and she conceived these triplets naturally, which is something you don't hear about. But she did. She has three children. she conceived them naturally.

In while she's on my couch, conducting that interview, my wife Aaron is in the other room with the three kids. However, Liz is able to go back to that moment that happened three years ago and get to that same emotional place. So here she is, she succeeded. The babies are in the other room. They're toddlers by now. And as she's going through this process of what she experienced, she's describing this as if it happened yesterday.

What does that speak to it speaks to this is trauma. And if we're not addressing it is trauma in D layering, how we're approaching ourselves in this process while it's happening to us, then this is trauma it will have lasting impact on our lives. So yeah, I find that to be fascinating, but it was also fascinating. is here Ryan and lizard. Were on my couch and having this discussion. They were discussing things that they never discussed before when it when they were in the struggle.

Liz was saying how you She felt she was letting him down. And Ryan said, I never felt that they were literally looking at each other having a dialogue that was outstanding. I felt that it was a little late. And wouldn't have been incredible that if Ryan and Liz were able to connect at a deeper level during that time, how that might have been a significant game changer for the amount of pain and worry in ownership that Liz had on her shoulders that entire time. So anyway, we have many more videos like this that we cover through the program because I think you need to hear from other people to help recognize and connect and then we want to start to unravel psychologically what's happening here.