Well, it's time not to start getting a desk out. And I'm glad actually be the desk position is actually not fixed in here. We did kind of dread when we looked around that would be mixing in the box in the back, but that tends to just DJ booth. And I hate mixing DJ booth and I know you feel the same way just yeah, absolutely john and anything at all ready, that gives you a false picture of the sound in the room, in boobs, on balconies on any kind of riser ready because there's always a hollow space under the riser, which resonates with the base. There's very often a situation if you're underneath the balcony where you get a false impression from the back wall base does lots of height to congregate in those places. We'll see I don't like being above the ground.
I don't like to be raised up I like to the same height as the audience. I'm listening to pretty much the same, some of the same plane as the audience when listening to the speakers. So Pretty much the same sound that they're hearing. I think that's really important. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely it is. It can make it increasingly difficult for you to mix, the more of a false impression you get.
And you have to remember that you're mixing for them. You're not mixing for yourself. Yeah. So we're gonna start at the desk up pretty much central to the room, such as the room, this is a matter of some debate. There's something that made this just the I'm big fan of going in the center. The advantage of this is I get very good clear, left and right picture.
Justin. Yeah, I'm not so much of a fan of it. Actually, I don't mix in stereo at all. I use stereo as an effect. But I don't actually use the pan pops on the desk to build a stereo picture as one would in the studio. And one of the disadvantages of mixing right on axis is that if you hate each pay system, equally, you're equidistant from the both of them.
You get Loading in the in the base, you get an extra three DB on access. So it gives you again, a bit of a misleading picture as to what's happening in the low frequencies, which is one of the most important areas that we need to contain. And also one of the things that changes the most in between people coming into the gig after soundcheck. I do like mixing the sensor. I like to be able to hear the left and right clearly, I once again I don't pan things drastically, and I use stereo for an effect. But I do like to be in the center.
I tend to like a bit more bass than most people. So I kind of compensate for that by please myself a bit more and letting the audience have a slightly less which kind of makes it easy on them. But one of the bands I do, it's very much I need to know what's going on left and right. So it's kind of driven from that. But once again, I quite like stepping off the center. So I'll move along to one side of the desk so that I can hear to one side So I lose the sense of culmination point in the center.
So it's very important this to consider whereabouts you're going to be standing and be able to move about. Absolutely. Well, you know, this is this is no more important than at festivals because the festivals are the worst places to mix Really? Yes in junior high up and arise. Absolutely. They put us in this little box there, which has got reflective surfaces, it has its own resonant frequency, it will almost certainly be a bass trap.
But you'd be amazed on how few people ever actually make the effort to get off the box there in and stand and listen to what the other 74,998 people are hearing. It's amazing because we don't like to step into the merge merely as well yes or no, no, but is important to get off the riser and get down into the grass and have a listen. And it's another thing Yeah, it's very something very rarely says people actually getting out and listening. And it's important during the gig if you can get out for your position and just quickly run out, maybe five meters out for your position. Just have a quick listen and go back to The desk reevaluate what you're actually listening to. Because other parts of the room may be base like base having, we're going to listen to that when we set the desk or we start listening to music in the room.
And we'll try and demonstrate the problems of different positions. And the fact that sounds never is the same over a room. That's just one of the great problems we face. Absolutely, particularly in the traditional left and right speaker system. Obviously, if you put too low frequency sources and distance from each other, they will interfere with each other, you will get lightning, you will get comb filtering, the laws of physics cannot be changed by us or anyone else. Yeah, us.
It's a case of being aware of it really, and engineering it to your advantage rather than to your disadvantage. Yeah, that's something we're going to be covering in a minute. But first, we can set the desk up. So hopefully we get answers, give us a handle service desk and stop worrying effects up and getting things ready. smashing. Let's get to it.