Yeah, I thought I did that I welcome to class number five. And in this class we're going to talk about things to do during the interview after the interview to make it really powerful because as I understand from all the market research and all the feedback I've received from people the one thing over and you can't hear you can't hear Debbie dashing her class number five, this is the ultimate visibility formula. And in this particular class, we're going to be learning some techniques that you can really knock it out of the ballpark when you're interviewed, because almost anybody can be interviewed even on a low level show however, it doesn't mean that people walk away and say Woohoo, I got all these great results, right and results is everything because It's part of your time. And we want to make sure that if you're going to be using that time and energy and I'm frankly using the listeners time and energy they're tuning in to hear you.

And very kindly, there's a host of station, who is thinking enough of you, to invite you to come to their show to illuminate their people, and do such a good show that people will stay tuned in. So there's all these things to consider. So you do want to have results. You do want to have results because this is your opportunity to to create new clients or community sales, fill rooms, have books sold, whatever it is, that is your strongest intention. So I'm going to start this particular session by saying, You are stronger than you think. And that's what I want.

Our mantra for this session today to be is I am stronger than I get Myself credit for I can do this. I am strong and I am limitless. So I'd love for you to post in our chat box, Michael, you can post in a virtual chat box in your brain but just write it out. I am strong, I'm strong. I'm limitless. I got this.

So I'm gonna look for your chats there. And it's true because you can do anything. You can do anything. Thank you, you are hits, right, you're strong, you're limitless. You got this. You can do anything if you want to do something.

And God knows for all of us. We have done things in our life and been incredibly successful. So I want you to tap into that energy of knowingness that you can do something and what is your WHY? Your wife for being interviewed? Why are you wanting to be interviewed? What will being interviewed bring to you and your business?

What will it do for you? What will it open up for you? How will it position you? How will being interviewed bring ease and freedom into your life? Who might you meet by virtue of being interviewed? So let's make your y so big, that the Y actually pulls you forward.

You've all created a goal. And you said, I'm going to be interviewed this much. Certainly you should be being interviewed in this class. That's the point because you've got me live. And I'm here to coach you help you bring any questions in real time. Many of you created really big, audacious goals about being interviewed until the end of the year.

What does that look like? So I'm going to ask you to share a little bit now about what Why is why you want to be interviewed? And that's my question about this total alignment that's gonna pull you forward. So it can bring really great things to you. Why are you wanting to be interviewed? What is it going to position you as what kind of ease?

Is it going to bring into your life? Who are you going to meet by virtue of being interviewed? I'm actually asking you these questions. So I'm going to ask you to chime in, what is it going to do for you? What is it going to open up for you? What will being interviewed bring to you?

So anybody? Why don't you share what that is for you? I'll go Mm hmm. Well, first of all, I mean, meeting you, I met you know, a close friend and someone who has been a supporter of mine. You introduced me to other people who became my friends and close and supporters. I think it legitimizes my voice.

I think it it brings in more people. And you know, which can bring in more clients which can bring more ease. And, and more than anything for me, I think is creating that space for people that instant healings, whatever that is for them. And so that there's more people out there paying that forward, you know, and having a better life and making better decisions. And for someone like you, Karen, I met you, because I heard you interviewed on TELUS summits. And I was like, I don't know who this woman is, but oh, my God, I feel it's so strong over here and finally had the guts to pick up the phone and I found out, you were right here in LA and I booked sessions with you.

And then after working together for a while, we became friends and you know, so and so on. And it's true. I was. So this is such a good example for everybody. Because as someone who's a host, and I had Karen on my show, in fact, we did a series where she picked different themes, and she helped the listeners heal, which I love. I think that's so cool, because listeners get to know somebody, and they know oh, you know, Karen's coming back.

This time she's talking about body. This time, she's talking about love this, all these different themes. It gets very exciting and they like to call in and get healings. So also, why this is really prevalent is, then I'm in conversation, just with ease, telling other people who I know have shows or programs or webinars or tele summits. Oh my god, you have to check out this woman like, She's great. she delivers.

And she's awesome. I mean, she's deep and she's funny, and my audiences lover, and then people started booking her as well. And she knows how to develop relationships. So relationships were formed. And sometimes I want to pull back the curtain a little bit cuz it's such a good example. Sometimes it's really cool as a healer and you really have to feel into what's right and light for you.

But I will tell you I get swag as a host and I don't know This as a boast. I mean this as it actually opens the door. For more, I know I'm doing a lot of poetry, but it's just coming out that way. And what I mean is, Karen is one of those people and there's a couple of people I can point out that I've had on my show, who have gifted me with sessions and said or a session, just let me let you experience what I do. So when I come on for conversation, like you really get what's going on here. And I am telling you something happens in general, in a host world when we experience your work, we can speak to it really beautifully when we're on air.

And I would hope it would increase customers and clients and people enrolling in things that you offer from money because they keep hearing us talk about it at a very intimate level. Plus a before and after level. So if you really are good at what you do, and it feels lightened right in your space to give the host with a session, it's, it's super to do. And, and another piece I want to point out why this is such a good example is because of who I introduced Karen to and she became friendly with, and I, etc, you know, the pebble that you drop in the pond and all the ripples? Well, the ripples kept increasing because those people introduced her. And I mean, she got to the point where she was on Lisa gars show in Los Angeles, and so on and so forth.

And although there aren't really tell us summits much anymore. You know, she's recently been on Darrius, who's one of the few who are remaining, and I'm saying all this because this is the world we live in. And this is what's possible. So even for where she's functioning, she's looking to grow even bigger, and certainly can. So I guess my question to you Karen, with what You just shared his has doing what you've done all this time with interviews. Has it brought you clients?

Has it enlarged your community of people that you work with or know about your work? Oh, yeah, definitely. Can you hear me? You can still hear me. Okay. Yeah, absolutely.

Because when people you know, I have clients from all over the world and so that your people find you so much easier if you're on all of these shows, because I mean, it's weird who comes from where you know, you think LA is such a big you know, spiritual hub and I be getting all my la people but it's not true. They're not the they're not majority clients at all. It's all over it's candidates, Europe, it's east coast. And a little bit of the Midwest but but it's crazy how you just it's just easier to find your people and and that's why I cut out for a few years. Because my mom died and I had a whole bunch of stuff to do. And, and, and I noticed the difference.

And you know kind of went like this. And what do you mean by that? Notice the difference what difference, I noticed a difference in my the level of my business, my business changed because because I wasn't being interviewed all the time or even I took a like a couple years, two or three years off. And so I just noticed there were less people in my pool and then So coming back into it, and I've been coming back in for a while, but you're like, Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Like people go, Oh, yeah, I remember her. I remember her.

And so so that's really funny. I had one thing where a friend of mine who they didn't know we were friends, and this client called my friend was a healer and said, I've talked to a lot of people, even the world famous Karen Abrams, and I thought, Oh, is that sarcastic? Because obviously I you know, but she wasn't saying it that way to a friend who didn't and she didn't know that. I know. knew him. So it's weird, who, you know when those little things pop up here and there.

So yeah, it's been great. Awesome. with both feet. Yeah, it's beautiful. And I even appreciate the piece about taking time off, and being able to clearly see the difference in your business and people rediscovering you all over again. So we're going to get you back out there in an even bigger, better ass way than ever before, give you skills that are going to take everything you've been doing so successfully and pop it up even more.

And these last two classes should really help in that. So thank you great example. And what is your why why are you wanting to be interviewed? What is it going to bring to you? What has it brought to you? What will it do for you?

Who will you meet? How will it position you? Who the my big Why is just because I need to get out more The rules and let people understand how easy things are, I just feel that there's so many people that really have no idea like they're stuck in this whatever. And they need a way out. And whether it is they're listening to other people. And Jennifer had said this today I was reading the email.

And she said to say, like, what's the difference between me like if everybody's out there doing this thing. And what I realized was because I used to do that all the time, like golf, like everybody's saying this, I'm saying, we're all seeing the same stuff. It's just a matter of different ways. And I think that's why everybody says it differently, because our tribe will gravitate towards us. We have something to say we wouldn't be in this field, you know, so the best thing we can do is get out of our head and say, I've got nothing to share that everybody else isn't. Because our tribe is looking for us.

You know, we're sitting here and we need to get out there and let people understand how easy it is. Or we went through this and look at I'm a survivor and you can do this too. So I think for me, it's really Not only making a positive change in the people, but how that positively affects the world, as well, because you know, the majority gets it done the whole world shifts. So, you know, for me, it's like this big global, like, Come on, let's go, we got to get the world going, we got to get to a bar. And I know it. I know.

I mean, just from meeting you, and you know what you've done for me and stuff. I just know that as we're shifting and as we're meeting people and doing interviews and all that friendships will form and it will just continue to grow and get bigger and bigger and bigger. And then all of a sudden, we're going to be the Wayne Dyer's of the world. Now this is next generation coming up. I don't know how old was he? Maybe we're the same generation.

Yeah, I think you're younger darling. But but but for sure. You know, same idea. Thank you. Perfect. Yep.

Glad that you can take that from the I've got the same messages every everybody to realizing No, I doubt it may be in general there is Germany. Truth, germane teachings, but it's coming through you and your filter will deliver it in a way that only the people who you can touch will hear. So you are that important. Each of you are that important without your life experience that's behind it both good and bad, right? That you're bringing all that wisdom, plus the tools. Somebody's going to hear your story and be moved and want to work with you.

Somebody's going to hear your wisdom. And even though you may be saying ish, the same thing. They're going to hear it through you and go, that's the one that's the teacher I need. This is where I need to work next. So your voice is that important. And trust the way it comes out.

And I'm glad you have that recognition. And I'm going to read Jennifer's because it looks like her mic isn't working out. So this is her why Jennifer says I'm going to be interviewed in order to change the world for the better and bring ease and peace to others. In order to do this, I need the exposure being interviewed will give me my life's purpose is to heal to bring healing, and I need to do this on a larger platform. Exactly. And get out there so that people may receive the message I was created to give.

That is precisely it for all of us. It is the size of the platform it is who is listening, engaging in the platform, that in our own little worlds, the towns we live in, and even the little workshops we go to, they may seem huge, they may even attract thousands, but still, how often are we going to do that right? And you don't get you're not on stage. Most of us are going to hear or watch somebody else and if we're on stage, then you know it's just that sector. So it's uh, you know, he was speaking as much the same speaking, being interviewed. If you're going to To speak, you got to be speaking to match radio or podcasts, you got to be speaking to thousands, thousands, thousands each time.

So excuse me, it is much quicker to do it this way. And if you're ready for a large platform, your message your business, this is the way to do it. So Excellent. Excellent, excellent and has anybody since last time had any wins that I don't know about? that we're not posted in our group any place you are interviewed or anything that happened since we met last time? And if not, everybody will have a chance also in Wednesday's class to share so get get your wins on.

So you could share some wins by next week? Yes, please. Um, do you have any Okay, well, I just finished this morning. My immediate one sheet template and we just put it all together as best we could. So I can set it up. big win because it's going to be ready in my little suitcase whenever I go out.

So I'm very happy about that, because I couldn't get the technical stuff. So God bless my wife. For you, is that what you're saying? Well, I had all the writing and everything, but I didn't I couldn't fit. I was going to take, you know, not my wheelhouse. So she came in and help me out with.

So yes, no, that was a big deal, though. Because I forgot that I didn't have that ready. And I needed that to be ready. And go how it posted in our Facebook group so we can all see it. Okay, let's get to know you better, and what you offer and also, we'd love to see what you have created with the help of Stacey. So for you.

That's awesome. Yeah, well. We're going to shift now into some tips for things that you can do while you're being interviewed that will elevate what you're doing. One of the things you can do when you're speaking and being interviewed is use the hosts name. When you're being interviewed, when you use the host name, it creates a sense of intimacy. And it's really positive for the listeners to hear and it's very positive for the host.

The host actually enjoys it. So start to play with that. I mean, naturally, you're not going to start every single sentence by saying, well, Debbie, that's a great question, Debbie. Glad you asked that. Debbie. Here's the response.

Well, Debbie, I have five steps. What you know, if you said that over and over, it's like bananas, so we're not going to ask you to do that. But if you can find a couple of times during the interview, to use warmly use someone's name. It makes a huge difference. Now, one of the things I've asked you guys to do is to start listening to interviews, right? Go to my website, Debbie dash Finger calm and click on the show and you can hear many, many interviews.

Pick out the ones you like and start to hear how the pros do it. How do they show up? How do they speak and you'll hear many of the things I'm teaching you the pros do. And one of them is that they start to use the host name. Okay. Another thing you can do.

Shelby, thank you. Another thing you can do is share stories and real examples to support your points. We talked last time about going to each interview and knowing you're going to dress two points which is awesome. makes your job easy makes the hosts easy jobs he job easy also makes the listeners following you very easy to digest. The other piece is because we can speak to material But it can get rather pedestrian when all we're hearing is material. This as soon as we start using different spices and flavorings and colors, it heightens what it's like to be a listener again.

I asked you to go to my website or go to my YouTube channel, and youtube.com slash Debbie dashing girl or spreaker. Dare to dream with Debbie dash finger, go to these places and start listening to shows you can listen to them on your phone when you drive, your iPad, whatever you like. The point is, when you hear pros being interviewed, you will hear them use the host name and it makes it warm and you will hear them go to their points and always use a story to illuminate that point. So find real examples. It could be about you It could be about something that's happening in the news. It could be about something in history, it could be about clients could be about an experience or situation.

All of those are so helpful. Next, I'm going to suggest you don't hold back. Share your best advice. This is something I continue to play with myself when I'm interviewed, and I am telling you that the most profound interviews and when when the curtains really pull back now, you can't give anybody everything in 20 4050 minutes, not gonna happen. Don't worry about that. Because anyway, you're focusing on one to two things and within those one to two things and telling stories.

When you start really giving information there. All it's gonna do is attract people to you and let them know how amazing you are When you book your interview, find everything out. So that you know how to show up is this video, because that's important. If it's just audio, I might be showing up with a ponytail and a T shirt. But if I show up with a ponytail and a T shirt, and also I'm on camera, that's not going to be nice for me in my business or for the person show. Always ask, Is this on camera or audio only?

Very important. Find out exactly how long the show is. How long is your interview? Always listen to the show before you get on. So you know the rhythm. Are they taking ads?

Do they have music? Do they take calls? What is the host like what is the vibe of the show? Like is it light? Is it funny is a deep is it irreverent? What is it when you understand the amount of time you have so for instance, my shoe was an hour show.

But actually, it's 55 minutes because all one hour shows are 55 minutes. Why? Because the station has to put pieces elements and ads in between sandwiching shows. Also when you consider I've got an intro to my show an outro to my show. And since there are people who advertise on my show and sponsor my show, all of that is actually detracting from the 55 minutes. So now we're down to around 5051 minutes.

You might think that's a lot of time but it actually goes like this. So if you have an awareness, I've got 15 minutes. What's the most important thing I want to hit? And when somebody asked me a question, I am really clear I don't want to ramble because all rambling is going to do is eat up time very quickly and make you sound confusing. So stay on track. It is perfectly fine.

To answer a question, and then do this, which means I've closed my mouth. And I'm silent. hosts are smart. They're not going to make you suffer in silence. They will come back in. And what happens if you finish a sentence and create silence?

You, the host starts to feel synergistically the vibe of your pattern of speaking coming in and out. And they'll start to engage with more trust silence. It's way shorter out here as a listener than you think it is as a speaker. So trust that don't ramble, respect the time limit you're given. We all want to be asked back again. And being asked back again is treating the staff of the show and the person who's hosting the show.

With respect, respect means when they say I need my materials from you on this date, you have it in on that date or before period. technical problems, you deal with it on your own, you never ask the person because in general, it's going to be your problem. And we don't want to show up looking amateur, develop a relationship. And relationships can be many ways. Part of it can be the gifting of a session. Part of it can be the way you follow up and thank them and say, you know, it's amazing to be on your show.

You're doing a great job I really appreciate and thanks for introducing me to your audience. Now, I know out in our world, it's really big to ask that question. Is there anything I can do for you? That's great. I don't know if people always have an answer for that. And even though it comes across kindly, I'm not sure it develops a real relationship.

Find a way to say something At and believe it or not, the thank you notes stands on its own. And it's perfectly fine. You know, maybe once a month, check in with the hosts you've worked with that you really liked that you would love to go back to their show. And just say, hey, host was thinking about you today had such a great time with you. And I was wondering how maybe they shared something personal. I was wondering how this was going in your life it was reflecting and thinking about you I'm sending on my best.

Let me know how you doing send me an update anyway. And that's just an example. But anyway, you create warmth, what you're doing is creating a relationship with an influencer. It goes very far in this world. For me relationships have developed my entire career. So if you're good at doing that naturally, then go from what feels natural to you.

If you are not so good at it. Just start to play with it a little bit and see the result. To get when you start being interviewed way more than spotty interviews, meaning once here, maybe a couple months there, that's fine. But truthfully, when you have energy going into being interviewed, maybe a couple of times a month, if you can do that great if you can do more fabulous, but I would go at least a couple of times a month because what happens is, we all know you're going to cross promote. We all know you're going to do a great job. When you're done.

A day later, a few weeks later, they're gonna send you out. Here's the link to your show. Awesome. You download that show you keep a copy of the show. And you take the show and you cross promote, you put it out on all your social media, to your email to your newsletter and say, Hey folks, I was on this show. Always capture great headline.

What did you talk about? What was the big turning point? So if some kind of subject that, you know, people gonna say, Oh, I want to click on that, listen to that, because that sounds really interesting, like a newspaper headline. But what's so cool about that interview, if you could put it succinctly, in one or two sentences, that's all you want. When you start letting people know, yes, you're being kind to the host and saying, I'm cross promoting you awesome. What else is happening is there's now this heightened awareness of you.

And then you are known as an expert out in the world. All these shows are booking you. People start paying attention. Things will start happening in your world, which will be a wonderful surprise. You'll be invited to speak. Because people keep seeing your name.

You'll be invited to collaborate. You'll be invited on panels. I mean, you're going to create your own world. straights are going to lead you into the places and spaces where you can accelerate even more. It is so important to cross promote and let your audience know. I'm here I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here.

It's like being your own PR publicist. So great things will come. plants a seed, people think of you first and they will think of you very well. If you want to do social media and make it easy, I'm sure most of you know these systems and I'm just going to name one but there's many systems out there where you can do one post and it disseminates out to several social media places all at once. So for instance, I use Hootsuite and Hootsuite I can connect my LinkedIn, my Facebook, my Instagram, my Pinterest, my Twitter by YouTube, That's a lot. one fell swoop.

And if I set up two of them, a couple of them. Again, one fell swoop, all I do is click it, I can even schedule it for later. Some people I've had on my show, and they're amazing. Because there is a way to auto send where you set it up. every couple of weeks it goes out and I've seen them because I am tagged my handle ww fingers is tagged. And I see they've been sending out over and over again about having been on my show.

It just bodes really well. You really appreciate people like that. So without With that said, I want to tell you a little bit about what's possible for the future after this class because I had some of you asked in our private sessions. You're getting a lot out of this and it's like the train is in a really nice place rolling along. You're not so sure you want it to just end Which is wonderful. I'm really glad that you have that sense.

Now you're living in the possibility. It's not even a probability. It's like, Oh, I'm doing this. And here's what's possible while I'm doing this, like this is happening is going down, I'm being interviewed. And there's so much to this. The great thing is, if you are not in a place where you want to spend five to $15,000, monthly retainer on a publicist, you can actually do this yourself.

And the savings on that obviously enormous and what you bring in, you heard Karen talk about she can feel the difference being interviewed, she had this level of community and people coming in to work with her, and it changed when she had to choose to take that time off. And so what a fun way to bring in clients just being you offer Your gift, your brilliance, your funny, quirky personality, what a great way to meet people without having to stand up and being all salesy. It's so lovely. So we're going to learn the system in this class. That's my promise to you. And I promised you in this class, you'd be interviewed, if you're using the sheet I gave you.

Were some of the techniques I taught you earlier, you're going to be successful. Period. And again, I urge you to do the interviews and bring them here and tell us about it. How did it go? What went really well because of what you learned here and what is a question mark like this happen? I don't, I didn't really know how to handle it.

This is a great place to explore that use me, right. I'm here. And we'll all learn. So once the class is complete, you know in two days, we're having our final class. And I have to say, what comes up for me when I say that is how lucky I feel because How fortunate I am, am I to bring together people such as yourselves. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

And I know you can feel that. I sometimes look around at the tribe I have here and who I attract and I feel incredibly fortunate and I feel like wow, something or someone must love me very much to bring this level of people into my world. And I feel very honored to know and work with each of you and to send you out to the world to share who you are and what you're doing. So that said, here is what's next after the final class this week. And many of you know this, you've been in it there is the advanced visibility formula. And the advanced visibility formula is a shorter class, much shorter class.

We learn the pieces. Now we're functioning we're being interviewed. These pieces are how do we show up? Very professional and very savvy? How do I do a statistic? How do I tell my story?

How do I tell any story? What is the sound bite? And how can I speak in sound bites? sound bites are so important. When you start getting to the point of wherever you're located, or you travel, and you want to get booked on morning drivetime shows. That's how we speak.

I mean, they do talk, talk, talk, commercial, talk, talk, talk commercial. You have to be rapid fire and know how to get in and out. From there if you're ready for television interviews, and I showed you last week some television interviews about people you think how are they being interviewed on television, but they this guy did really really well. And you can too. Same thing sound bites? How do you Do sound bites super important, and to have some written, you have them with you again, just something we rehearse, and we get really good at.

So it is about sound bites, it's about telling stories. It's about statistics is about how do you build your media page? What does that even look like on your website. And we're going to further develop your message. So for those of you who want more shows as well and more contacts, you're ready for that that will also be shared in the advanced class. Going forward more and more as you do this, and I'm more willing, the ability to heal your inner issues with being visible as well will reflect on your outer being visible, become much easier once you do even more healing at that level.

So for that class, my aim, as with every class is your SAS Saturday. faction, I want you to be satisfied with the classes, I want you to feel like where I started is here where I ended up there. I want you to feel like you know, this is one of those rare times only because I hear this a lot out there. But this is one of those rare times where I put my money down invested in myself for freedom later. And I got what I asked for and paid for and even more, that is so important to me. Of course, you'll also get another free my gift to you session, which is a $500 value the one on one.

So here's where it's going to happen. It's going to start October 30. Because we're done on November 25. It's only four classes. And we move rapidly. You have to have done this class.

So only you folks can come to that class. We're going to give you the URL if I can find the URL ah Well, if you go to D BB ID I'm going to put it in the chat box see bb id.net, slash services. We go t p bi t.net slash services. Yeah. So that's where you've got the advanced formula. So there's a couple of things you are going to see a special price.

So it's going to go up. I would absolutely if you're interested, enroll this week before the price goes up. And for those of you I want to give you sort of the last vision for those of you have taken the advanced visibility formula you can come back as half price. And for those of you who are new to ultimate visibility formula, this class this is what you can anticipate. For the folks who have taken both this class and the advanced class. They know once they get to advanced they are welcome to come back to ultimate visibility formula anytime it is given for free.

So, that is my gift to you once you are on this path with me. I find ways to make all of this easier as we go forward that we continue to work together and for me to honor that you're on the path with me. Okay, so the prices is as it is, again. You know, I'm leaving the country so I would book yourself now if you're interested. For anybody who wants to do two payments, absolutely. If you want to do three pieces payments.

I know you guys, you're good for it. It's not a problem, you just email me and let me know. And, yeah, we're gonna have way deeper coaching, and one on one private prep work. If you have anything going on, we'll we can take that through the class, the actual interviews, and I really look forward to working with all of you down the road, because there's lots more to do around this. So, at this point, in our sessions, I want to introduce you to me. And I very mindfully didn't want to tell you too much about me in the beginning of our class, because it just made more sense for us to have all the information we have and then make a choice to pull back the curtain a little bit more I want you to see me in the beginning of class.

And of course, you'll have your own interpretation built on your filter. But I think in general, I'm a fairly confident person. I think I'm very capable out in the world and I do very well. I'm pretty clear. I know what I know about particular subjects just like all of you. I'm an expert at what I'm an expert at.

And for me, it definitely is about being visible, about being seen about being heard about living out loud. And I think why it's important to share now in our fifth class is because it was not always like that for me. And I definitely am somebody who believes our gift is our wounds. And because we are people who say, Man, it's not okay to Be in this pain. This sucks. I'm not going to live here for the rest of my life.

And there's hopefully something better on the other side of this. I'm going to do whatever it takes to get through to the other side. And that really was my journey. I grew up in very interesting circumstances. And I feel strongly that I was born with the innate desire and ability to be in front of people. Without a doubt, from the time I was nothing, I mean, I was, you know, barely talking, and I was singing, and I was barely walking and I was on a stage as a little actress.

I mean, that's all I did. My whole life, acting and singing and music. And I knew that's what I was going to do out in the world. And I knew that was my path, and it was for a really long time. for a really long time. I was an actress and singer and it was One of the greatest joys of my life, it's there.

Everything I did in that world such amazing memories for me was the place where I felt the most free. It was the place where I felt so in command in an interesting, very surrendered way. And I received such amazing feedback all the time. Because if I can make people laugh, and I often did comedic parts, it was the best feeling in the world to know how to make people laugh. And it was great feeling to open my mouth and be able to sing in a show or otherwise. And so this was my life for a really long time and I acted until something changed way into my adult life.

I was a professional actress. I was doing voiceover work for cartoons. I was making good money and something got wonky on All of a sudden, not with the voiceovers, but definitely with being a professional actress. And that was shocking. Because that had been my identity since I was a little kid. And I didn't know what to do.

And it got so prevalent that I finally said, I surrender. I have no idea where I'm headed, but I'm letting go. And I did. being such a creative person, there was no way I could just stop everything. And I was always looking for outlets. And the first thing that happened was I wanted to make jewelry and I took a jewelry class.

And I think something that shows up a lot of my personality is when I really liked something, I throw myself 1,000% into it, because I took this jewelry class and I love this so much and also and I'm at home buying beads and, and string and this and that and all sorts of equipment. And I mean, I was churning out jewelry like crazy. And I'd wear it and people would say wow, where'd you get that necklace? I'd like one. I'm like, I made it. Can I have one?

Yeah, I guess so. And people were paying me and all of a sudden, a month later a month into doing jewelry. I went to some jewelry stores. Oh, okay, I went to Beverly Hills. And I went to Neiman Marcus on Wilshire and Rodale. This is the truth because man, I don't go low, first store a month into making jewelry.

And I tried to sell my jewelry to jewelry to the stylist there. The person who buys who is the buyer for the store, who was very kind and said, Look, this is great stuff. I want to see a little bit more your signature. Why don't you go back and work on that? Let's set up another appointment. And I walked out I thought, how could she turned me down?

And the next week I went to another store and they took everything. And I was in five stores across the country. So for many years, I sold jewelry and that was a great outlet for me. And at some point I started to feel like this, isn't it. I could start to wane again. Okay.

I joined Toastmasters. I start speaking. I'm speaking everywhere. I'm loving it. I'm teaching goals and balance and loving being in front of people. But it's the same kind of thing like, Huh.

I love this, but this is not quite it. And I start singing Christmas parties and I changed the words to songs to talk about what's happened over the past year and make fun of it. And somebody comes up to me at a Christmas party and says, Man, good voice. We've got a big band. Would you like to audition? We just lost our lead singer.

Whatever. I go audition, I get it. I'm now the lead singer for this massive Big Band. We're doing lots of gigs we're getting paid. They have an offshoot, which is a jazz band. I'm singing jazz for the first time my life because the only thing I really sang before them was mostly Broadway tunes are pop.

And all of a sudden I'm thinking like, wow, God, I just discovered something big. I freaking love jazz, like there's something about the freedom here and not knowing what's coming next. In the roofing, so I'm happy. And I'm doing this for a long time. But I'm frustrated because I want to get my voice out there and nothing's fully clicking. And I see an ad for radio.

And this is over 12 years ago. And I think, Well, I think that's a way to get my voice out there. I get the gig. They give me this little music show. And I try to make it fun for myself. So I play genres and come up with some like contests and fun things, but it's really honestly not for me, and I'm thinking you could leave anytime, Deb.

It's like, this is okay, but I don't think it's really filling my soul. And I'm glad I stayed long enough because in staying the owners offered me my own show. And that was the beginning where the universe could finally step in after three long years of having given up acting and singing and the universe stepped in and said, Here you go, girl. This is what we've been waiting for. This is the download of metaphysics. This is the download of speaking in front of people of being an entertainment of connecting of this is some of what's going to open you up to your healing abilities.

This was the inception of me coming out of the spiritual closet. I had no idea I was spiritual before then. And I started to see who I was attracting to my show it started to see the guests I actually loved talking to and all of a sudden click click click click click psychic comes on my show and says I need you to check out this word clairsentience you have this gift you have no idea clear cognizance, look these up call me back and I'm like, Oh my God. Now my life is on fire now wanting to write books and tell people about what's going on in my life. And I'm writing books and I figured out a turn books into international bestsellers. And I started speaking on stage, and all of a sudden people are coming to me and going you're an expert.

I'm like I am. Yeah. You're an expert. Can I interview you? Yeah. Do I start being yourself?

You and I suck. And I know that sounds mean, but it's true. I was awful. I listened back to my first interview, and I am I hope there is no copy out there. Because it's so bad. The interview host asked me one question, I'm sure she meant to ask me 15.

But about 40 minutes later, I was still responding to that same question. That's how bad I was. And I knew I was bad because when I listened back as I tell you all to listen to yours. I was cringing, and I knew she never asked me back. But I was determined to learn. So I became really fascinated with, well, what makes a great interview?

What makes somebody as great as what I've heard other people be. So I went into full on nerd research mode, and I start researching, how does somebody do this successfully. And it's everything from listening to other people in real life. time being interviewed and getting a lot and doing the actual nitty gritty research, and I'm learning and learning and learning and now going out there and I'm still being asked, and I'm starting to incorporate things, and I'm starting to see things turn around. Then I'm learning more, and I'm incorporating that and I'm learning more and all sudden somebody says, I heard you on the show, I'd like to work with you. Okay, then I feel a class doing that, then I sell books doing that, then people start coming to me and saying, I'd like to learn what you're doing.

Something's going on in your space. And I'm very interested in having that I'll have some of that, please. The shingle went out, because people came to me with a need and I started teaching this out in the world. Now this class you're taking has had many incarnations over 10 years. And it's been called radio bootcamp when there was only radio and then it was called the red carpet interview mastery. And then, you know, I did market research to learn what do people want, right?

Now, I took the class and really turned it on its ear to deliver that. And that's what you're taking. So I learned everything I could learn to be the best I could be because it was clear that people were perceiving me in a certain way inviting me to do something, I wanted to be good at it and I wanted to start getting results. And that's why I'm here with you today. And what I want you to know about the piece about it wasn't always like this, even though I was built for this is because I grew up in a household that didn't support me in the way I would have liked to have been supported, interesting choices my soul made. And as a really sensitive person, difficult choices.

Dad completely not in the household wasn't there when I was born Holocaust survivor and knew nothing of intimacy. Nothing of making a daughter feel special or seen or loved. received, the few times I spent with him in my life. And there was my mother who was physically 100%. They're very smart woman, very cultured, very political, very creative and musical, and yet a great narcissist. And so there was an air in the house for my voice.

It was really about listening to her. Whatever that was loneliness, and it was painful for me. So I learned to leave my body and fly far, far away a lot. And I had amazing grandparents who were very much there and very much loving and supportive. What happened was I developed ideas about myself that said, You're not here to be seen. You have an awkward voice.

You're not here to be heard. And so it's really difficult to have this DNA mission about being on camera and microphone and stage, and you're hearing voices that tell you otherwise makes it very interesting. And for me most of the time was more interesting being in my life and being on stage that was easier. Coming off stage was really difficult. But what happened was I took it on as my healing mission because it was not okay to operate like this. Because if I was built for visibility, I was damn sure going to get through to the other side.

And so I did everything I knew, and every piece perfectly has been given to me, one after another after another after another. And I will say the piece to resistance was when I I've spoken at many media's summits and big experiences on stage about doing this work. And I was asked in a way that was really surprising and not expected in a certain event, suddenly, would you please do Take the stage, you've less than two minutes. We're just going to make you like a bit of a litmus test here so everybody can see what this might look like. We want you to share and tell us why would we book you if we're going to turn the turn the tables? Why would we book you on a show?

Show us how? Gosh, I was so nervous. It was very uncomfortable that this was thrown at me. However, I know enough, even in spite of fear to say yes to opportunities and to help people see what does it look like to pitch yourself. And when I was walking up to the mic, and I was so so nervous to do this, I made a decision because the only thing I know how to do when there's fear because of what I learned, and I really want to make a point of that. Previous to how I learned how to do interviews.

I had a lot of bravado in showing up how I thought people wanted me to show up. This is what wisdom looks looks like. This is what teaching looks like. It actually didn't work for me. So I learned quickly, early on what worked was vulnerability, lowering the barriers, allowing access, walking up to the microphone. And I know that's the only thing that works for me is vulnerable, vulnerable.

And what I can think of in that moment is to tell the truth about something I've never said to anybody. In that moment to hundreds of people. I'm on the mind, I'm on the mic. I see the time or the spotlights on me and I said to everybody, I'm Debbie dash finger on the media visibility expert. And what I do out in the world is help people write books, get their books to bestseller and learn how to be interviewed on radio and podcasts in 60 days or less. But the truth is, even though I teach this the question that I hate the most when a host asked me hate the most, is when they say what is your journey then?

Because I don't want to share my journey. I don't want to tell people where I come from. I don't want to talk about my childhood. I don't want to say why I'm here and why I do what I do, because I'm ashamed. And because I don't want you to know the home that I came from. And I went on with the story.

And some of you have heard this in a previous class here. But it's such an important turning point for me, because in that moment, it was the first time I owned my story. It actually by telling the truth turned everything around on me, and allowed me with vulnerability, a lot of strength, to say the truth for the first time. This is the home I came from. And it wasn't the best circumstances, and it's the childhood. Actually, I'd really not like to repeat, but for whatever reason, it gave me the resilience and it gave me the guts and it gave me the pain point to understand what anybody goes through.

Getting up to a mic or camera. I have so much compassion for every client who comes to There's nothing you could go through, I don't understand. Because I've been there, at some way shape. If you have anything in similar in our childhood or experiences, and I've been there because I do it in my career, it's part of my career, don't just teach this stuff, I do this stuff. So I get it. And I can lovingly work with anybody because of it.

And it's given me so much, right? We all know from the tough times we've been through what it gives to us. There are so many people who have inspired me in my life who have had painful events in their past too. And I used to think that the events of my childhood define me, but now I know that what I choose defines me and that was my PowerPoint. When I was growing up. I felt like Casper the ghost.

When I got to a certain point in my life of healing. I threw off that sheet and said, I'm here. I'm staying here. I'm not going anywhere. And this is who I am and I'm never going to feel awkward or apologetic. For that, again, because getting here has necessitated a shift and an understanding, knowing that my difficult life circumstances and the challenges that I faced, were about finding my own voice.

That it was a perfect soulful evolution. And that I am grateful and became grateful for the unfolding as it occurred. And that I allowed this bigness of being like, this is me. There is nothing to apologize for. There's nothing to hide. It's so awesome, right?

The awkwardness, the quirkiness, the brilliance, the all of it. So I then saw myself okay, well, I'm the creator of my life experience. So I'm on the front side of this right. of the very things that used to plague me with pain. Hmm. Now, what I previously thought of like that, it was all about letting go forgiving, letting go.

Resentment by anger, by forgiveness. You hear you harm me or I perceive that you harm me Got it. But now, what if these events were purposeful? What if they served me somehow to become this today, and it was was just not going to happen any other way. And that it was necessary as a conscious and unconscious process. So I had this epiphany and then I felt motivated.

Okay, well, I can use all of this to help heal in every area of my life and to learn to give back to people, finding a true voice, finding my healing, being fully visible in my career and in my life in my purpose, became my joy to put back out there to help others discover their creatorship through their voice and through their visibility. And that's why I'm here in front of you today doing this. I definitely chose not to let my beginnings define me. And that it was time for me to have a voice. It's time for you to Have a voice. It was time for me to be visible and use my voice and it is for you to to shine your light and to stop making apologies for that.

I met so many amazing people when I step fully into all of this. Steven Tyler from Aerosmith, Mike Rowe, from Dirty Jobs Melissa Manchester, the singer songwriter paula abdul the three tenors, the four time NBA champion john Salley, Arnold Schwarzenegger, the actor Ian McShane, and so many more people. I have the most amazing photos and memories from incredible people. Henry Winkler. Everything I went through afforded me the insight I have today to best guide my life and allow me to help others become an expert. And feel confident in interviews and learn to use media visibility, like you're learning to use it.

And to choose I'm never going to suffer neglect again. Not at my hands, not at my hands. Because you know, when we have had neglect, it's easy for us to perpetuate that against ourselves in interesting ways. And certainly, I have had that in my own history. And then I learned that I was creating my own pain and that wasn't okay either. I didn't have to be a victim of my own cycle.

So you can also choose to never suffer from your own neglect. And to say this is an opportunity for a spotlight for visibility for my voice, Now's my time. And it is your time. It is time for you to shine your light. And it is time for you to step into your greatness. And while you're here, and never make an apology for that media visibility is available to you to get your message out in the world.

To be seen to connect with your community is so easy and wonderful to use. And your past has actually given you the insight that you need to share yourself powerfully today. interviews. They say that when the teacher is ready, the student appears. And for you to be showing up as the teacher be interviewed a lot, so your students can find you. And all I want to do is work together with you, and all of you for one common goal, and that is you shining in media interviews.

So once upon a time for me, it was real disability. And I was incongruent. It was built for something that I was really against myself around something because I have very different beliefs based on someone else's behavior that was really about them. And today, it's not that it's not a disability that's completely disowned. It's 100% possibility, using my voice, my visibility for great good. And so the healing journey I've been on has allowed me to come here and be with you today.

I know that meeting is magical. And I want you all to find that in yourself to that bigness of being. So I'm going to open the mic for people to share. And I also want to open this up for a little bit of real time coaching or QA. And just to get some feedback. I have a question.

I mean, first of all, thank you for sharing all of that because, you know, even by you know, knowing you for as long as I have there definitely your story is much bigger than that. And because when you're friends and you're like, hey, let's go down right now, you know, you don't always get back into how far that was nor that it did. I know that your story was something you didn't want to share. So, so thank you, for for deepening that today and just really, really appreciate that. I had a question actually about going back to something totally utilitarian. My my medio one sheet, and I had a question, but I didn't know if I could let you see it.

And so you can kind of look at it or I should just ask my question. You can actually bring it up. I can't bring it up, but you can do it. And if any trouble there, I do share. Uh huh. All right, here we go.

Can you see that? Yes. Great job. All right. So this is my lovely wife. God bless her.

And so I didn't First of all, I didn't know if I was supposed to put the 32nd elevator pitch in here. If that was a part of it or I just go straight into the you know, other part of it where it starts yeah I like this so far I'm just reading through it sure Aaron's keen sense of humor of up to the third paragraph insight well read it out loud so there's your name then there's master data healer exactly you might want to make master data healer just a little bigger. But you know now this is very little minor tweaks that will change anything, although I can see a that size the same size as mastering money and the other headline so let's leave that for now. I see visually, which says for more than 17 years, Karen Abrams has helped professional women gain confidence, financial security and personal fulfillment with theta healing a powerful technique that unhooks self sabotaging habits that have held them back from the success they deserve, as a master theta healer and gifted, intuitive Karen works with clients and groups worldwide to reprogram their subconscious beliefs, release trapped emotions and create new understandings that bring about financial security and personal fulfillment.

Karen's keen sense of humor, insight and healing abilities have made her a rising star on radio and the International telesummit circuit in the human potential movement. I'm going to ask you to add the word on podcasts, comma, radio on Okay, I'm at the end. Okay. So yeah, that third paragraph, other word podcasts, because I don't want a podcaster to look at this and say, Oh, she's only done radio. Okay, look at that word. And then we're moving on to the next section.

Karen Abrams, most popular media topics mastering money, take control of your money instead of money controlling you break down your barriers to making more money. Receive. I like the little stars. That's pretty cool. I picked that out. That's beautiful.

It's really nice. Actually visually, I haven't seen that yet received deep healing on core issues that brought your money into existence cute. Transform your inner bully into your best friend. Discover how to silence the critical inner voice that keeps you from taking action towards your goal. Turn your inner bully into your greatest ally Good one. walk toward your goals with confidence.

Great. Next headline Make your move. Find out how to get unstuck and take inspired action. Transform limiting beliefs into empowering ones clear resistance to achieving goals value add for the audience. Bring on live callers to share their challenges so they can experience immediate shifts through Karen Abrams work perfect praise. Just wanted to say thank you for helping me make a shift in my life.

I already see it in my job. Wow. A 400% increase in sales for last week. Mike ah sales. First of all, that is a brilliant testimony super short to the point and the fact I mean that As a statistic man 400% increase, like, who isn't thinking, hmm, how do I get on her calendar? That's really good.

And then as a telesummit host, I've interviewed over 200 respected authors, speakers and energy workers. I was blown away by Karen's intuitive insights and spot on advice. Based on those insights. I would recommend Karen's work to anyone who has any issues financial, physical, emotional, she's truly gifted. Deborah, help her in Parliament. Yes to success.

I'm just wondering, the only thing I'm wondering is about putting quotations. Yeah, that's what I didn't know if I should put those that are not so sure. What do you think? I do? It's very clear. I like the quotes.

It's the only thing that's missing there. And then we've got your email, we've got your phone, we've got these are all very cute, by the way. Well done. We've got your website. We've got your branding, which is great. And we've got your handle so Yeah, I couldn't get we couldn't figure out how to put these letters down here for the two parts are the same data things at the bottom.

And I didn't know we didn't know what the letters would necessarily be. Or it doesn't look like a bunch of yet. Like, you know, things that have bolts mixed together. It is a look. I would know these are all hyperlinked, right. They're clickable.

I don't know at that at this point. No, they were just put into the, into the PowerPoint. So I don't know how else to do that. Perfect asked Stacy to make them hyperlinks. So when we put our cursor and what that means everybody is if I were to put my cursor here, this would light up as you know, and I if I clicked on it, it would take me to her email. If I clicked on this, it would take me to her website if I clicked here if I clicked here.

So just make these hyperlinks and you're good to go. This is perfect and it's what I really like about it too is how much space there is. You know, I tease that there's a Fang Shweta this, but I kind of mean it like to have a, you know, it's just very lovely to look at, I don't feel overwhelmed looking at it at all, it's really easy to find this, I could interview you if I had to fit you in because somebody cancelled or a weird spot, I could fit you in and do an entire show. You know, and I could just pick one of these. Right? Let's do a show on mastering money.

I wouldn't necessarily do all three, it's too much in a show. But we could do a whole show just based on that. So yeah, it's great. And Karen, in case you have like extraordinary numbers somewhere. You don't have to necessarily add it here. But you could add it in your pitch email, you know, like, I've got 15,000 on Twitter or I have a database of you know, 25,000 between social media and emails, whatever, however you want to typify that, but that would be great.

To since you've been doing this a while, okay, and if my numbers, my numbers aren't great, they're, they're pretty low. I mean, I think they're low. But but so what do I do given that they're low? I mean, do I, then don't bring them up. But if your social media if you add social media to numbers, and they're really good, you can use that. Okay?

You know what I mean? Like, if you add in all your social media, I do it that way. And I'll tell you why. Even though there'll be a lot of people will say, No, no, a database is a database. But there's a reason I do it that way. And of course, I would tell someone, if they asked me to break it apart, it's no problem.

Because I get so much traction on social media that I know if I'm going to post in a particular social media platform. I know I'm going to get results there. And I have a lot of people on my social media platforms. So I'm happy to talk about that. announce it because If I tell people I've been interviewed, they're going to go listen to my interview. If I say, Come join us live, they'll join us live.

Mm hmm. Okay. Okay. Okay. And do I convert this into does this then this document because it's in like I said, it's still in PowerPoint, we just kind of pull things over and did that. Does this get converted into a PDF?

And I send that out? That's correct. Okay. All right. Okay, cool. Yeah, I needed to know that because, okay, so convert into PDF.

Okay. Good work. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank you. You're set, man.

You're totally Hey, I'll stop my share. Okay. Anybody else? Yep. I just want to say thank you for sharing your story, because it's always it's always surprising, I think, because you are so you're just like, you're like, Oh, she's had no problems, you know, so it's nice to hear, and nice to then recognize, yeah, we can all overcome things. But other than that, I can have questions.

I just want to say thank you for sharing. Thank you sure it is really beautiful. I'd like to steal it. Thanks, Renee. Appreciate it. I know Michaels driving and that's probably Tracy, Tony and Jennifer are I don't know, I should check back in the chat room and clay in case there was anything else I'm still muted.

So you could fix it before next class and then talk a lot. By the way, Michael, I'm gonna speak from Michael Michael had a win to me. I think it was a win right there. He was just on a cruise ship like speaking. Speaking on a cruise ship. That's where he's going back from.

So he was speaking on there. I think he said he left Friday. And they were coming back today. So it's like a Michael Yeah, that's awesome. All right, well, we'll have to hear how that went. And see if that is going to be parlayed into any interviews or anything wonderful because God knows you deserve all that.

Happy for you very happy for you. And good news for everybody. It's just going to get better and better, folks, I promise you as you use this system better, better, better. So I have this amazing poem I want to share with you. And I guess it'll speak for itself. But I, one of the things that sort of, interestingly helped me quite a bit in my life, is this feeling of immediacy.

And I've really had this you know, even as a young person, I really had this once I got to be around, you know, 18 years old. I just felt this urgency with life. And knowing that people I loved weren't always going to be there and they leave. And you know that stuff would change. And it gave me a really interesting outlook, about I suppose, being hungry to do what I came here to do, as well as to communicate with people, if I really loved them, if they really touched me to not have any kind of filter about that, or any illusion, that this might not be the last time someone would see me or I'd see somebody else and how important it was for me to say something if it was in my heart to say it. So I feel that immediacy to with getting out there with each of you doing what you're here to do.

So even before our next class, I want to ask you very boldly ask you book yourself on an interview, you can actually be interviewed great if not get it on the books. Get Your stuff booked. We're together. Now this level of accountability is delicious. We're going to have a break after the last class. And there'll be a couple of weeks, right?

Where you'll be out there doing your thing before the advanced class starts. And so you'll have more accountability once the advanced visibility formula starts and use this momentum. Use this beautiful safe container you have here. Use the accountability you have here, the private Facebook group, being live in classes, all of it. This is the time get yourself booked, because we don't know our last moment ever. So this poem is by Ellen bass.

And it goes like this. What if you knew you'd be the last to touch someone. If you were taking tickets, for example, at the theater, tearing them, giving back the ragged stubs, you might take care of To touch that palm, brush your fingertips along the lifelines crease. When a man pulls his wheeled suitcase too slowly from the airport, when the car in front of me doesn't signal when the clerk at the pharmacy won't say thank you. I don't remember they're going to die. A friend told me she had been with her aunt.

They just had lunch, and the waiter, a young gay man with plum black eyes joked, as he served the coffee kissed her aunt's powdered cheek when they left. Then they walked half a block and her aunt dropped dead on the sidewalk. How close does the dragon's spume have to come? How wide does the crack and heaven have to split? What would people look like if we could see them as they are soaked in honey? stung and swollen, reckless, pinned against time.

That's from the human line. Copyright 2007. So it's old, and it's by Ellen bass. And it's just a reminder of how briefly we're here, how important it is those things in our heart to do to be insane it is to put it out in the world. And so again, the mantra I've offered to all of you is, I am stronger than I give myself credit for. I can do this.

I got this. I'm strong and limitless. I can add in a cup throw, I've got my media, one sheet, I've got my pitch letter, I can put this out in the world. Tada. So, again, folks, I want to invite each of you to join the advanced class, this is the time to do it, because the price will go up. Those of you who've been on this journey already and coming back around, you've done the advanced class you can try Join us again, it's only half price for you.

So as I say, in Yiddish, it's bubkis. And for those of you who are doing it, I didn't want to go into all that but it shows you the breakdown and how I've decreased the price even to join the advanced class. I would like to share something with you here at the end which is sharing with you the reasons why you matter. And you know, I like to end our classes with these because it's so it's more important to me than you can know about you knowing your brilliance and the light I already see in you. Oops. This time Because your siblings look up to you?

It's fun because you have talent in the world. Then go watch your favorite shots. Your boyfriend girlfriend because your smile like your friends never know. Never know where your life is gonna go. Never know We will see you on Wednesday. Bring your wins and go do some great work in between