There might actually be puritanical fanatics of conscience, who even prefer to lie down and die on a certain nothing than on an uncertain something. It's a tremendous foible of human consciousness to want certainty in a chaotic universe. I mean, for me, there's no such thing as time. Time is the construction of human consciousness. There's no such thing as past, present and future out there. And space is amorphous.

And this is what Kant looked at categories of consciousness, time and space and how they're constructed. And so we want certainty. We want to know that the ground beneath our feet isn't going to open up but you know, look what's happening in Hawaii today. The ground underneath their feet is literally opening up and lava is coming out. So We crave certainty. And I'll just go off into another direction.

But as Thomas Kuhn said in 1968, or 69, he said, paradigm shift every 25 years in terms of science, you know, like, whatever revolution regarding physics and medicine and all those things that are under the rubric of science change quite frequently, and now we living in the age of information, and things are changing at hyperspeed. You know, like, if you try to judge like what reality is, so, it's best to be fluid. That's when I that's what this quote is really saying. It's like, it's, it's okay to be uncertain to not know and to say that, rather than saying, I'm a fundamentalist, this is the way reality is, and men should do this and white people should do this, and this should happen and that should happen because that's the thing that is That type of dogmatism is a type of thing that is very dangerous.