So when you're starting out doing Do overs between saxophones it's a it's a great combination. You know, even if they're both tenors or both altos are ones baritone, or soprano, because they're very equally matched in terms of the volume. And you can do a lot of the same types of things on them and play both roles and being supportive and playing company men and also playing melodies and improvising. In this example, we were just playing the most basic form of a duel when provided. We were playing in the key of G concert, which is a on tenor saxophone, and it's e on the alto saxophone. So we were just moving gently around in the scale, not worrying too much about rhythm or any organization.

It's a lot like an abstract painting where you're kind of just painting, making shapes on a page and or on a canvas and just sort of seeing where it goes. It's like the breathing for me is really a key part of combining music and And communication because when all of us are taught as horn players, you, you're told to do long tones. And the one one teacher said to me, Well, you don't always just have to start out with 15 minutes of the same no long tone, you can if you want, and some people really, it helps relax them and helps really focus them. But another teacher might say, well, if as long as you're doing the long tones, if you're if you want to start exploring the scale and then start wandering, you know, and that's a great thing to do. Because it's all breath.

It's all from the connected, connected breath, that we get our sound. So that's really important to have