Ah, that was a while. This is we played an improv like that. Yeah. What were you thinking about during that? Well, we've been kind of doing all these duel videos here today and moving through these different levels of beginner and intermediate and advanced. And I was thinking about kind of starting in a very gentle open place and then allowing the structure to kind of present itself.

It's it's sort of I find it's like a great story. A great story reveals itself, like at the right moment the characters walk into the frame or onto the stage, for sure. And how are you? Well, yeah, I think about that story analogy a lot. It's like, sometimes I'll say to a student, a young student, you know, they they might be able to retell a story that they know really well like Goldilocks and the Three Bears or something, but I'll say to them sometimes make Tell me the story about a giraffe. And a mouse and an elephant.

And I'll just make, there is no real story I'm referring to. and older people will tend to say, well, which story is that, but a young child often will just start making it up. So in my experience of playing a saxophone and learning how to improvise, letting things unfold, it's a little bit like just having the faith that that something is gonna, you know, happen, whatever happens, it happened, you know, and, and sort of taking away my fear of whether it's good or bad or not taking away that voice of judgment. You know, and remembering, in the process of learning to do this, I can remember what it feels like to be a pretty young child and just have an imagination that can just turn on and improvise. So that's what that's what I was thinking about it in that piece. I there was so many things I would say we were playing in probably an advanced level for the most of that.

And I think that a lot of the skill and the techniques that We had in our fingers comes just from hours of practicing. But But still, the breath was the thing that really impressed me the most, you know how, how our breaths if you could actually have a, have a draw a picture of how our breathing patterns not instead of the notes and the rhythm, but just show a freeze mark on YouTube, I think we both took a big long breath at first and then maybe another long breath, we often have done that, because it's a great way to build a feeling of trust with with your partner. And then and then sometimes he would start the breath. And then I remember doing a few shorter breaths pattern to build up some to build up to a peak, you know, so he would go and play along note and I would come up with dadada dadada dadada.

And that's a trick I use a lot when I want to build to a climax and I feel like I have something to say in the story and I want to take it to Have a more dramatic level. So building up with a few short breaths like that, get your lungs really full so that you can then wail on a high note or get louder or get lower or whatever you want to do. So breathing is always key even up to the advanced levels. You always want to have a sense of varying your breath so that the story will be very two