Not to take away from the love stories and some of the other positivity in light. But is there ever been any dark energies or anything that you've gone through or seen? Yeah, I've had to encounter dark energies several times. Not a lot. It hasn't been really common. But I've certainly had to do that to make me realize enough that the real so you don't wanna mess around with them.

One experience I remember very vividly when I moved over to Bellingham, you know, as kind of a fledgling hypnotherapist and stuff and I was trying to, to get the word out a little bit. And I went to this cafe that I liked. It was at the base of Mount Baker in this little town called glacier. And I'm made friends with the owners there and they found out what I did. That's really interesting. So would you like to trade it for me?

And I thought Yes, absolutely, you know, and so I did sessions with both of them. And I remember one in particular, where I went to their house to do these sessions. And so in one session in particular might have been the first one, I took this woman into a nicely relaxed, you know, state and carrying on this session and she's, you know, fluttering around on sailboats, or whatever, I can't remember. And then, as I'm going through this session, I could feel like this presence pushing against my throat is is very, it was very unusual, but it's very, I could feel it physically. And I'm going, Okay, what's going on here, you know, and as the session session continues, it gets it intensifies. He gets more and more until it feels like I'm in kind of like this raging battle with this thing that I didn't know what it was.

I was An experience with dark energy at that time, and it wasn't experienced with disembodied entities or anything like that. And so I'd heard it I remember hearing about them when I was going through my training, but I'd never experienced one. And I didn't know what was happening. And so, so she, I didn't let on during the session that anything was wrong. You know, I was fine. I was kind of, I didn't want to tell her anything, because I didn't know what she was experiencing.

She seemed to be having a very pleasant experience. And so so we end the session, and I kind of think I clumsily ended the session, because I wanted to get out of there quickly. And so I bolt out the door, you know, and, and leave and go, Oh, my god, that was weird. You know. And so I go home that night. I went with a friend.

We walked around the lake, we went for a whole hike around the lake. And as we're going on his walk around this lake, I noticed that my heart rate rate is going up and I'm sweating profusely and Like I just had, like, you know, three or four shots of espresso or something. And, and we got into a big argument. And those are totally out of context over something stupid. That didn't make sense, you know, and we kind of left really awkward, you know, I may have apologize and stuff, but you know, I felt strange. And then I went home that night, and then went to bed and had a dream.

And in the dream, I remember very vividly that I had let this baby alligator go into this pond. And then I dove in after it, and the baby alligator had grown to full size and as on this full on wrestling match with this alligator. I mean, I remember the the the dream distinctively. And then I remember by the end of the session or by the end of the dream, that I had dispatched this alligator it killed it or whatever. And then I I was thought that if I hadn't killed the alligator it would have killed me. I remember that.

And so then I wake up the next morning, except it wasn't morning. It was like noon and I never slept until noon. And my sheets were entirely drenched. So I had this battle in my dream that was really intense. And so okay, whatever, you know, still not connecting any dots. And so, so I go back up to the town of glacier.

I rode my bike up there, and I stopped in to get one of my free meals. And I found out that the owner there was in the hospital. She had contracted pneumonia overnight was in critical care. And so, which is bizarre because she was on the ski patrol team. She was in fabulous health. She was like, you know, a specimen, she's probably 14 or so.

And so I go, oh my god, you know, oh my god. So I drive into the hospital and I see her and she is semi coherent. So she didn't remember that I came to visit her afterwards. And I had an intuitive flash that something had happened on the right side of her body I could see this like whiteness and I did find out she had contracted ammonia all through her right lung through entirely inside is like bizarre and so and then I found out later from her when she got well that she had a polarity therapist, which is like a kind of an energy healer therapists come to her house after she got out of the hospital help balance or energy or whatever. And during those sessions a raven flew up to her back window and packed on the window. Okay, you know, okay, yeah, right.

Okay, whatever. And then after her third session with the polarity therapist, that came each time he was there, and then after the third time, it flew off and she never saw it again. And so I'm going, Okay, this is really weird. What happened? So what I did is that I went into Western Washington University and I looked up this I think she's a psychologist, but she was her specialty was in Shimano ik studies. And I told her my story and I thought what had happened is that, that I, I surmised that there was a dark presence on these people's property.

It wasn't on them at the property, yes for for whatever, you know, and, and through this session of hypnotherapy or deep relaxation meditation, it opened some kind of Portal or doorway and this thing wanted out and so it was going to get out. I don't think it was after me, I don't think was after her. I think we just got in a way and I just mowed us over. And so I told her that and she she thought that sounded like a pretty good Darien that's sounded good to her. I mean, she didn't know but it's like I was looking for an authority and I really didn't find one. But what happened at The end of that particular session is that I quit doing hypnotherapy for three years, because I figured I'd opened the door to a world or universe that I did not understand and I was not really ready to go into and I got really scared so.

So that was my, one of my first, you know, introductions to dark forces.